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Grace
Reformed Baptist Church
Pine Bush, NY
Paul Gordon Pastor
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BILLY GRAHAM
QUESTIONS AND EYEBROWS RAISED
AT PRAYER MEETING - ANSWERED
At the prayer meeting of the Grace Reformed Baptist Church of Pine Bush, NY tonight May 9, 2001, I made reference to remarks of the Reverend Billy Graham made in recent years in which he has sounded more like a Unitarian Universalist than like an evangelical Christian. The looks of surprise and amazement and near unbelief at the idea of the Reverend Graham saying such things led me to believe it wise to supply you with the quotes.
Here are but a few:
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"I used to think that pagans in far-off countries
were lost-were going to hell-if they did not have the Gospel of Jesus
Christ preached to them. I no longer believe that. I believe there are
other ways of recognizing the existence of God-through nature, for
instance-and plenty of other opportunities, therefore, of saying yes to
God."
[1/78 McCall's Magazine]
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ANALYSIS;
Here in plain sight for all to read and see is Billy Graham in direct contradiction and denial of the Word of God and the testimony of Messiah
Himself who said;
And he said unto them, Go ye into all the
world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
He that believes and is baptized shall be
saved; but he that believes not shall be damned. Mark 16:15,16
Jesus Christ, God's chosen Messiah who came to die for His people in order that they might be saved says here in no uncertain terms that the one and only way anybody will ever be saved is if they hear and believe His gospel. And all who do NOT believe the gospel shall be damned. But Billy Graham says; OOoh-h-h No! That's not true. I *used* to believe that... "I no longer believe that." Here Graham is both denying the truth of the gospel and calling Jesus Christ a liar! Jesus Christ says whoever does NOT believe the gospel shall be DAMNED. Billy Graham says; "No he won't"! Billy Graham believes that if a person does NOT believe the gospel he can still escape the damnation of Hell and end up saved. Notice this in Graham's words; "I used to think that pagans in far-off countries were **lost-were going to hell-** if they did not have the Gospel of Jesus Christ preached to them. I no longer believe that." Billy Graham says that he no longer believes that people who do NOT hear and believe the gospel are LOST and will GO TO HELL! He believes they can be saved and that they will NOT GO TO HELL! He believes that there are "plenty of *other* opportunities, therefore, of saying yes to God." That means he believes they are saved by some *other way* than hearing and believing God's Gospel! But Scripture says;
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is *none other* name under heaven given among men, whereby we *must* be saved. Acts 4:12
God says there is *no other way* to be saved than by Jesus Christ. Graham says "there are other ways of recognizing the existence of God." And Graham puts that within the context of escaping the damnation of Hell! Graham is not talking about people who look up at the universe and exclaim "Wow man! There -must- be a god" and then continue on in their sin and unbelief and perish! He is talking about people who he believes will look at the universe, conclude that there 'must be a god and I better believe in him' and then live a good life according to the 'light' that they have, and by so doing will escape Hell. That means Graham believes a person can be saved apart from hearing and believing the truth of the Gospel. What an insult to the Blood of Messiah!
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[Graham quote] "And I think there is that hunger for
God and people are living as best they know how according to the light
that they have. Well, I think they're in a separate category than
people like Hitler and people who have just defied God, and shaken
their fists at God. . I would say that God, being a God of mercy, we
have to rest it right there, and say that God is a God of mercy and
love, and how it happens, we don't know"
[1993 interview with David Frost quoted in The
Charlotte Observer, Feb. 16, 1993]
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ANALYSIS;
Here is the obvious false doctrine that men can be saved by their good
works; or "living as best they know how according to the light that
they have." Again this is a clear denial of the testimony of God who
says;
1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
God says men cannot know Him by way of their 'worldly wisdom', apart from preaching the truth of the gospel. Graham says otherwise, that men can "say yes to God" by some other way than the preaching of the gospel. Billy Graham contradicts God.
Ga 2:16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
How can one be justified apart from the preaching of the gospel and belief in Jesus Christ?
Jesus Christ said;
I am the way the truth and the life; NO man comes to the Father BUT BY ME! John 14:6.
But Graham comes along and says....
"O-O-O-h-h-h NO-O-o-o-o...
You poor deluded Bible thumpers have it all wrong. God is a God of
mercy. He's just TOO 'loving' to ever send anyone to Hell just because
they never had the opportunity to hear the one and only means of
salvation, the gospel. I mean... come on now! The Blood of Jesus Christ
God's Messiah is not the ONLY way that sin can be forgiven!"
What blasphemy! Here further the words of the Lord
Jesus Christ who is the Truth when He spoke;
He that believes on him is not condemned:
but he that believes not is condemned already, because he has not
believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 3:18
Here Jesus Christ clearly teaches
that anybody who does not believe on Him is *condemned*. Graham does
not believe this folks. He believes that people can NOT believe on
Jesus Christ and still escape condemnation. Billy Graham identifies
himself with Satan by denying the words of the Son of God, calling into
question the very words of God and calling God a liar.
This was exactly what was behind
Satan's question to Eve... "YEA...! Hath God said.. ??" "Now
wait-a-minit Eve. You might have heard GOD use those words, or
did your husband Adam tell you that that's what GOD actually
said? But even if GOD did say that.. c'mon now you know how
wonderfully k-i-n-d and g-r-a-c-i-o-u-s and l-o-v-i-n-g He is !!
He is just soo-o-o full of love and mercy even, that He would not
*really* inflict... DEATH on you and Adam. Oh No-o-o--- Eve; God
didn't really **mean what He said!"**
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[Television interview of Billy Graham by Robert
Schuller. Part I, an approximately 7-minute-long broadcast in Southern
California on Saturday, May 31, 1997. The following is an exact
transcript of an excerpt close to the end of this broadcast.]
Graham: Yes, it is, because I believe that. I've met people in various parts of the world in tribal situations, that they have never even seen a Bible or heard about a Bible, and never heard of Jesus, but they've believed in their hearts that there was a God, and they've tried to live a life that was quite apart from the surrounding community in which they lived.
Schuller: [R.S. trips over his tongue for a moment, his face beaming, then says] I'm so thrilled to hear you say this. There's a wideness in God's mercy.
Graham: There is. There definitely is.
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ANALYSIS;
Here Graham shakes theological hands with the heretik
Robert Schuller as they both grovel in their God-denying false doctrine
of salvation by works apart from ever even hearing there is such a
thing as the Bible! They further deny the Biblical doctrine of man's
natural depravity of the heart by saying that "they've believed in
their hearts that there was a God,". Yet Scripture flatly contradicts
these men in its teaching that natural man is completely depraved and
in such a condition he hates the true God of the Bible, neither can he
know Him. Thus these two expose themselves as enemies of the cross who
trample under foot the precious Blood of the Lamb of God!
Billy Graham believes;
1; God loves everybody.
2; He loves them too much to send any who try to
live a good life to Hell.
3; Man is not Totally Depraved. He is able to
recognize, AND SAY YES TO God apart from ever seeing one word from the
Bible. This is Pelagianism which is condemned by historic orthodoxy.
4; Those who never hear the gospel are separated
into two categories.
A; Those who are like Hitler and 'shake their fists'
at God.
B; Those who "are living as best they know how
according to the light that they have."
The latter, says Graham, may escape Hell and be
saved apart from the gospel.
Does not Billy Graham become the very fist-shaking one he himself
condemns by telling God He does not know what He's talking about?
This goes even beyond the false gospel of Arminianism because even Arminians will say you must "accept" Jesus and how can you do so if you never even heard of Him or of the Bible! This stuff is nothing but the false teaching of humanism which says man can get to God all by himself. And what does the 'pastor' of this church think of Billy Graham? Does he recognize one [or two if you consider Schuller as well] who is a false teacher bringing a false gospel of salvation by human effort and is an enemy of the cross of Jesus Christ? Let's see. The remainder of the quote from the site are the words of the 'pastor' himself, Paul Gordon;
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At the prayer meeting of the Grace Reformed Baptist
Church of Pine Bush, NY tonight May 9, 2001, I made reference to
remarks of the Reverend Billy Graham made in recent years in which he
has sounded more like a Unitarian Universalist than like an evangelical
Christian. This is pretty sad indeed, but even worse is the fact that
the mainstream evangelical leaders have been silent about these clearly
unevangelical sentiments. It is an evidence of the doctrinal dearth
that characterizes much of todays evangelical witness.
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ANALYSIS;
Here this pastor at least acknowledges that what he hears sounds "more
like a Unitarian Universalist than like an evangelical Christian." As
well he laments the fact that "mainstream evangelical leaders have been
silent about these clearly unevangelical sentiments." Well and good but
does he take a firm stand on that and side with God and His truth? Here
is what he says...
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I don't think this delegitimizes Billy Graham's
Christian testimony. I wouldn't question his standing in grace nor the
godly walk he has exemplified over many years.
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So the answer is.. No! Even though Billy Graham propagates the false gospel of humanism, shakes his fist in God's face and calls God a liar, this pastor, Paul Gordon, believes Graham has a 'Christian testimony' a 'godly walk' and is 'standing in grace.' This pastor takes his place with those he condemns who 'remain silent' by remaining silent himself as to the wickedness of Graham. He just doesn't think Graham should be trusted as a guide or teacher. As he says;...
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But to view him as a trusted guide and teacher, a
kind of Protestant Pope as the media would view him is clearly
misguided. As the years go on the Reverend Graham's statements stray
more and more from the Billy Graham of the late 40's and early 50's
whose ministry was decidedly Biblical and faithful to most of the
Evangelical witness.
If a Billy Graham could so stray so far from the truth, it should warn each of us to be sober, to be vigilant for truly our adversary the devil walks about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, whom resist steadfastly in the faith.
Your Servant for Jesus Sake,
Pastor Gordon
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Maybe those who 'raised their
eyebrows' upon hearing what Graham believes ought to show themselves
faithful to God and His truth and question both Billy Graham and the
man they consider their pastor. If this
pastor still considers Graham saved, which he
obviously does, then he must also consider Robert Schuller saved as
well for after all, Graham and Schuller agree with each other in their
false gospel of Universal Humanism. Since Graham is obviously holding
hands with Schuller, the
pastor is as well, by holding hands with
Graham, also holding Schuller's hand. The pastor thinks that a person
can 'stray' from the gospel [did Graham or Schuller ever really preach
the truth?] and still be considered a Christian. Yet the Bible clearly
tells us;
IS 8:20 To the law and to the testimony! If they do not speak according to this word, it is because no light is in them.
Obviously when Graham spoke he was in direct opposition to the word of
God and was clearly demonstrating that there was no light in him.
Further...
Galatians 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon
removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another
gospel:
7 Which is not another; but there be some that
trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.
8 But though we, or an angel from heaven,
preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto
you, let him be accursed.
9 As we said before, so say I now again, If
any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received,
let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek
to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of
Christ.
Is this pastor a servant of Jesus Christ and His truth... or is he a man-pleaser like Graham and Schuller?
If either Graham or Schuller ever did preach the truth and have now somehow 'strayed' from it, according to this passage both are presently under the curse of God. And the pastor of this church thinks at least one of them, Graham, is not. Further the word of God tells us;
2John 9 Whosoever transgresses, and abides not in the doctrine of Christ, has not God. He that abides in the doctrine of Christ, he has both the Father and the Son.
Obviously neither Billy Graham nor Robert Schuller abide in the doctrine of Jesus Christ for Christ never taught what they teach. They are abiding in some other, false doctrine and the Holy Spirit testifies that such men are void of God. That means they are lost, which would certainly make sense as to why Graham would agree with a man like Robert Schuller. But despite the word of God, this RB pastor says that Billy Graham "has a Christian testimony, is standing in grace and walking in godliness!" The RB pastor is clearly contradicting God and denying His truth. The result...
10 If there come any unto you, and bring
not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God
speed:
11 For he that bids him God speed is
partaker of his evil deeds.
To 'bid God speed' is to consider such people as
saved when God says they are not and that is exactly what Paul Gordon
is doing folks! He is taking sides with Satan and calling God a liar.
God says that he is just as wicked; he "shares" in their
wickedness, and is just as lost and under God's curse. When Paul
Gordon says;.. Oh-h-h no! Billy Graham is a godly Christian
standing in grace!" he testifies against himself that he is opposed to
the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ!
Reformed Baptist pastor Paul Gordon is no
different from Billy Graham. He -shares- in Graham's wickedness.
1Jo 2:22 Who is the liar but he that
denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, even he that
denies the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denies the Son, the same has
not the Father:
*** TO THE
READER ***
Now dear reader, after reading
this article you are left with a choice. You can condemn me for writing
and publishing such an article; that's probably what most of you will
do. That's what men always do to the people of God who have the courage
to stand with Jesus Christ and His truth and point out and condemn all
that is against His truth. Read Isaiah or Jeremiah! It's why they
put Christ on the cross because He testified **to the recognized
religious leaders of His day** that their deeds were evil! But if you
do that then you are making a clear statement that you are in agreement
with Paul Gordon and you regard men like Billy Graham and Robert
Schuller.. [as well as the Pope, of whom Graham said was a great
evangelist!] to be 'Godly Christians who are standing in grace'.
How many of you are prepared to take such a stand AGAINST JESUS CHRIST
AND HIS TRUTH??
On the other hand you can choose
to take your stand with Jesus Christ and his truth and do something
about men like Paul Gordon who are clearly fighting against the truth
of the Everlasting Gospel of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
At the risk of sounding like an
Arminian... It's your choice!
John 18:37 Pilate therefore
said unto him, Art thou a king then? Jesus answered, Thou sayest that I
am a king. To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the
world, that I should bear witness unto the truth. **Every one
that is of the truth hears my voice.**
Mr 8:38 Whosoever therefore
shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful
generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh
in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
Jer 10:21 For the pastors
are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall
not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.